Subject: Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL
From: Matt Wilkie <matt.wilkie@gov.yk.ca>
Date: 21/01/2013 9:57 AM
To: support@esri.ca

Dear ESRI Canada Tech Supoprt,
(client id and version details attached)

I would like to get a clear answer on what is or isn't allowed with regards to the File Geodatabase API and redistribution of DLLs. The text of the license states, in part:

    [...]
    4.2 Uses Not Permitted
    [...]
    b. Except as provided herein, Licensee shall not redistribute Software, Data, or Web Services to third parties, in whole or in part, including, but not limited to, extensions, components, or DLLs.
    [...]
    The scope of use for the Software, Data, Web Services, and Documentation identified below is described in the applicable footnotes identified in parentheses.

    Software

    Esri File Geodatabase API (47)

    47. Licensee may develop and distribute software or web applications that use the Esri File Geodatabase API to Licensee's end users.

The Footnote 47 might be intended to allow redistributions of the DLL, but it doesn't clearly state so.

At various places in the user forums and elsewhere on the internet Esri staffers are seen clearly stating redistribution is free and that including the runtime DLLs are allowed, probably. I'd like to erase that "probably" with firm yes or no.

So, can, for example, the GDAL ESRI File Geodabase (FileGDB) driver be packaged and redistributed with the run-time file-gdb dynamic link library (FileGDBAPI.dll) to end users, by means of something like the OSGeo4W gdal-filegdb driver?

Basically I'd like to be able to give that to someone and they can read our data right away, and not have to add instructions similar to "go to Esri.com, create an Esri Global Account, sign in to the resource centre, go to the api download page, agree to license, download, unpackage, find 'FileGDBAPI.dll', and put it in PATH, ...etc."


thank you,

-- 
matt wilkie
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Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
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Subject: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[CASE#138661]}
From: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>
Date: 21/01/2013 10:53 AM
To: Matt.Wilkie <Matt.Wilkie@gov.yk.ca>


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Hi Matt,

Thank you for contacting Esri Canada Technical Support. The incident number 138661 has been assigned to your support request.

The answer is that yes, it can be distributed to your end users.

Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.

________________________________________________________

Victor C.
Esri Canada Technical Support

Toll Free: 877-441-0337
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Subject: Re: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[CASE#138661]}
From: Matt Wilkie <matt.wilkie@gov.yk.ca>
Date: 21/01/2013 12:03 PM
To: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>

Hi Victor,

Thank you for the quick answer. May I have something we can put in the download package along side or appended to the license.txt that has this assurance? I could just assemble the contents of our email exchange but that doesn't look so solid.

thanks,

matt wilkie
--------------------------------------------
Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
--------------------------------------------

On 21/01/2013 10:53 AM, support@esri.ca wrote:
> ** To ensure communication is received by the analyst assigned to your case, please do not alter the subject line of the email. Thank You!
>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Thank you for contacting Esri Canada Technical Support. The incident number 138661 has been assigned to your support request.
>
> The answer is that yes, it can be distributed to your end users.
>
> Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.
>
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Victor C.
> Esri Canada Technical Support
>
> Toll Free: 877-441-0337
> E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
> Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
> Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice:
>
> This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee or have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, delete this email and any attachments from your system, and do not disseminate, distribute or copy this email and any attachments.
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Subject: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[C {[CASE#138661]}
From: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>
Date: 25/01/2013 11:17 AM
To: Matt.Wilkie <Matt.Wilkie@gov.yk.ca>


Hello Matt,

Just to let you know that you request has been forwarded to Esri Inc. and as soon as I get news from them I'll let you know.

Best Regards,
________________________________________________________

Victor C.
Esri Canada Technical Support

Toll Free: 877-441-0337
E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support















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Subject: Re: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[C {[CASE#138661]}
From: Matt Wilkie <matt.wilkie@gov.yk.ca>
Date: 28/01/2013 8:43 AM
To: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>

Ok, thanks for the status update Victor.

matt wilkie
--------------------------------------------
Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
--------------------------------------------

On 25/01/2013 11:17 AM, support@esri.ca wrote:
> Hello Matt,
>
> Just to let you know that you request has been forwarded to Esri Inc. and as soon as I get news from them I'll let you know.
>
> Best Regards,
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Victor C.
> Esri Canada Technical Support
>
> Toll Free: 877-441-0337
> E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
> Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
> Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice:
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> This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee or have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, delete this email and any attachments from your system, and do not disseminate, distribute or copy this email and any attachments.
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Subject: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[CASE#138661]}
From: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>
Date: 30/01/2013 11:30 AM
To: Matt.Wilkie <Matt.Wilkie@gov.yk.ca>


Hello Matt ,

Here's the confirmation that yes , you can redistribute the DLLs of the FileGDB API.

Below , you'll find the original message from Jim Risley Esri's International Support Manager.

Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.



From: Jim Risley
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 PM
To: John Osborne
Subject: RE: Laundry list of items

Hi John,
          For the File GDB API issue, you are correct, the license does make an exception for the FileGDB API, so yes, they can redistribute the DLLs.

Thanks,

Jim


From: John O.
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:17 PM
To: Jim Risley
Subject: Laundry list of items

Hi Jim,

I’ve been having some issues with my emails, so I’m not sure you got this message yesterday.  I also have an additional item to add anyways, so here goes.


One last question related to redistribution of the File GDB API’s DLLs.  The Gov’t of Yukon would like to build an app the package’s and re-distributes the DLLs for the File GDB API, they are bit confused by some of the wording in the license.  I believe the license allows them to do this.  They’re hung up on the following clause in the license:

4.2 Uses Not Permitted
[...]
b. Except as provided herein, Licensee shall not redistribute Software, Data, or Web Services to third parties, in whole or in part, including, but not limited to, extensions, components, or DLLs.

The license seems to go on and make an exception for the File GDB API, so I think they can redistribute these libraries, but I just need confirmation.

Thanks,
John O
Lead, Critical Support Services
http://www.esri.ca


________________________________________________________

Victor C.
Esri Canada Technical Support

Toll Free: 877-441-0337
E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support















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Subject: Re: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[CASE#138661]}
From: Matt Wilkie <matt.wilkie@gov.yk.ca>
Date: 31/01/2013 10:16 AM
To: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>

Thank you Victor,

Is this a single permission for Yukon Government and/or the OSGeo4W project specifically? or may any other binary distributor also apply this license?

Thanks,

matt wilkie
--------------------------------------------
Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
--------------------------------------------

On 30/01/2013 11:30 AM, support@esri.ca wrote:
> Hello Matt ,
>
> Here's the confirmation that yes , you can redistribute the DLLs of the FileGDB API.
>
> Below , you'll find the original message from Jim Risley Esri's International Support Manager.
>
> Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.
>
>
>
> From: Jim Risley
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 PM
> To: John Osborne
> Subject: RE: Laundry list of items
>
> Hi John,
>            For the File GDB API issue, you are correct, the license does make an exception for the FileGDB API, so yes, they can redistribute the DLLs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
> From: John O.
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:17 PM
> To: Jim Risley
> Subject: Laundry list of items
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I’ve been having some issues with my emails, so I’m not sure you got this message yesterday.  I also have an additional item to add anyways, so here goes.
>
>
> One last question related to redistribution of the File GDB API’s DLLs.  The Gov’t of Yukon would like to build an app the package’s and re-distributes the DLLs for the File GDB API, they are bit confused by some of the wording in the license.  I believe the license allows them to do this.  They’re hung up on the following clause in the license:
>
> 4.2 Uses Not Permitted
> [...]
> b. Except as provided herein, Licensee shall not redistribute Software, Data, or Web Services to third parties, in whole or in part, including, but not limited to, extensions, components, or DLLs.
>
> The license seems to go on and make an exception for the File GDB API, so I think they can redistribute these libraries, but I just need confirmation.
>
> Thanks,
> John O
> Lead, Critical Support Services
> http://www.esri.ca
>
>
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Victor C.
> Esri Canada Technical Support
>
> Toll Free: 877-441-0337
> E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
> Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
> Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice:
>
> This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee or have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, delete this email and any attachments from your system, and do not disseminate, distribute or copy this email and any attachments.
>
> Avis de confidentialité:
>
> Le présent courriel et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et destinés exclusivement à la personne ou à l’organisation à qui ils sont adressés. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire ou si vous l’avez reçu par erreur, veuillez en informer immédiatement l'expéditeur par courriel, et supprimer le présent courriel ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes de votre système sans les copier ni les transférer ou distribuer à d’autres personnes.



Subject: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[C {[CASE#138661]}
From: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>
Date: 31/01/2013 11:01 AM
To: Matt.Wilkie <Matt.Wilkie@gov.yk.ca>


Hi Matt,

This is not a single permission for Yukon Government , this message is just a confirmation that the FileGDB API Dlls can be redistributed.

Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.




Thank you Victor,

Is this a single permission for Yukon Government and/or the OSGeo4W
project specifically? or may any other binary distributor also apply
this license?

Thanks,

matt wilkie
--------------------------------------------
Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
--------------------------------------------

On 30/01/2013 11:30 AM, support@esri.ca wrote:
> > Hello Matt ,
> >
> > Here's the confirmation that yes , you can redistribute the DLLs of the FileGDB API.
> >
> > Below , you'll find the original message from Jim Risley Esri's International Support Manager.
> >
> > Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jim Risley
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 PM
> > To: John Osborne
> > Subject: RE: Laundry list of items
> >
> > Hi John,
> >            For the File GDB API issue, you are correct, the license does make an exception for the FileGDB API, so yes, they can redistribute the DLLs.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > From: John O.
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:17 PM
> > To: Jim Risley
> > Subject: Laundry list of items
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Iâ??ve been having some issues with my emails, so Iâ??m not sure you got this message yesterday.  I also have an additional item to add anyways, so here goes.
> >
> >
> > One last question related to redistribution of the File GDB APIâ??s DLLs.  The Govâ??t of Yukon would like to build an app the packageâ??s and re-distributes the DLLs for the File GDB API, they are bit confused by some of the wording in the license.  I believe the license allows them to do this.  Theyâ??re hung up on the following clause in the license:
> >
> > 4.2 Uses Not Permitted
> > [...]
> > b. Except as provided herein, Licensee shall not redistribute Software, Data, or Web Services to third parties, in whole or in part, including, but not limited to, extensions, components, or DLLs.
> >
> > The license seems to go on and make an exception for the File GDB API, so I think they can redistribute these libraries, but I just need confirmation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John O
> > Lead, Critical Support Services
> > http://www.esri.ca
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> > Victor C.
> > Esri Canada Technical Support
> >
> > Toll Free: 877-441-0337
> > E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
> > Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
> > Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support
> >
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice:
> >
> > This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee or have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, delete this email and any attachments from your system, and do not disseminate, distribute or copy this email and any attachments.
> >
> > Avis de confidentialitÃ©:
> >
> > Le prÃ©sent courriel et toutes les piÃ¨ces jointes sont confidentiels et destinÃ©s exclusivement Ã  la personne ou Ã  lâ??organisation Ã  qui ils sont adressÃ©s. Si vous n'Ãªtes pas le destinataire ou si vous lâ??avez reÃ§u par erreur, veuillez en informer immÃ©diatement l'expÃ©diteur par courriel, et supprimer le prÃ©sent courriel ainsi que toutes ses piÃ¨ces jointes de votre systÃ¨me sans les copier ni les transfÃ©rer ou distribuer Ã  dâ??autres personnes.


________________________________________________________

Victor C.
Esri Canada Technical Support

Toll Free: 877-441-0337
E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support














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Subject: Re: Esri Canada Technical Support - Redistributing Esri FileGDB run-time DLL {[C {[CASE#138661]}
From: Matt Wilkie <matt.wilkie@gov.yk.ca>
Date: 31/01/2013 12:37 PM
To: "support@esri.ca" <support@esri.ca>

Ok, thank you Victor.

matt wilkie
--------------------------------------------
Geomatics Analyst
Information Management and Technology
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
--------------------------------------------

On 31/01/2013 11:01 AM, support@esri.ca wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> This is not a single permission for Yukon Government , this message is just a confirmation that the FileGDB API Dlls can be redistributed.
>
> Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Victor,
>
> Is this a single permission for Yukon Government and/or the OSGeo4W
> project specifically? or may any other binary distributor also apply
> this license?
>
> Thanks,
>
> matt wilkie
> --------------------------------------------
> Geomatics Analyst
> Information Management and Technology
> Yukon Department of Environment
> 10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
> 867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
> http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On 30/01/2013 11:30 AM, support@esri.ca wrote:
>> Hello Matt ,
>>
>> Here's the confirmation that yes , you can redistribute the DLLs of the FileGDB API.
>>
>> Below , you'll find the original message from Jim Risley Esri's International Support Manager.
>>
>> Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions or concerns by replying to this email.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jim Risley
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 PM
>> To: John Osborne
>> Subject: RE: Laundry list of items
>>
>> Hi John,
>>             For the File GDB API issue, you are correct, the license does make an exception for the FileGDB API, so yes, they can redistribute the DLLs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> From: John O.
>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:17 PM
>> To: Jim Risley
>> Subject: Laundry list of items
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Iâ??ve been having some issues with my emails, so Iâ??m not sure you got this message yesterday.  I also have an additional item to add anyways, so here goes.
>>
>>
>> One last question related to redistribution of the File GDB APIâ??s DLLs.  The Govâ??t of Yukon would like to build an app the packageâ??s and re-distributes the DLLs for the File GDB API, they are bit confused by some of the wording in the license.  I believe the license allows them to do this.  Theyâ??re hung up on the following clause in the license:
>>
>> 4.2 Uses Not Permitted
>> [...]
>> b. Except as provided herein, Licensee shall not redistribute Software, Data, or Web Services to third parties, in whole or in part, including, but not limited to, extensions, components, or DLLs.
>>
>> The license seems to go on and make an exception for the File GDB API, so I think they can redistribute these libraries, but I just need confirmation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John O
>> Lead, Critical Support Services
>> http://www.esri.ca
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> Victor C.
>> Esri Canada Technical Support
>>
>> Toll Free: 877-441-0337
>> E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
>> Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
>> Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support
>>
>>
>> Confidentiality Notice:
>>
>> This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee or have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, delete this email and any attachments from your system, and do not disseminate, distribute or copy this email and any attachments.
>>
>> Avis de confidentialitÃ©:
>>
>> Le prÃ©sent courriel et toutes les piÃ¨ces jointes sont confidentiels et destinÃ©s exclusivement Ã  la personne ou Ã  lâ??organisation Ã  qui ils sont adressÃ©s. Si vous n'Ãªtes pas le destinataire ou si vous lâ??avez reÃ§u par erreur, veuillez en informer immÃ©diatement l'expÃ©diteur par courriel, et supprimer le prÃ©sent courriel ainsi que toutes ses piÃ¨ces jointes de votre systÃ¨me sans les copier ni les transfÃ©rer ou distribuer Ã  dâ??autres personnes.
>
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Victor C.
> Esri Canada Technical Support
>
> Toll Free: 877-441-0337
> E-Mail:     support@esri.ca
> Portal:     http://www.esri.ca/portal/techsupport
> Web:       http://www.esri.ca/support
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>



